jazz cigarette and mary jane but me and steve know the truth path to enlightenment is prescribed by doctors. side effect may include exhilaration, colored lenses. >> jon: al ma ( cheers and applause ). >> jon: welcome back. my guest tonight, former senator from wyoming, also the cochair of the national commission on fiscal responsibility and reform, also known as the simpson/bowles plan, please welcome, senator allan simpson. sir. >> yuck man. young man. >> how are you? >> jon: nice to see you, senator, how are you? >> good, i saw that last segment. i thought maybe that would liven everything up for me. ( laughter ). i don't want to get into that. that wouldn't be a thing to do. >> jon: next time i'll make sure it's in the gift bag for everybody. ( laughter ). >> maybe just the cookies. >> jon: just the cookies. ( laughter ). so let me-- let me start with you. two years ago, two and a half years ago, you are aproasmed to chaiapproached tochair a commits to set up a deficit reduction plan for the country. you study it. you're very diligent. everybody hates it within 24 hours.